C+C just-so story

Greg Detre

Saturday, May 17, 2003

C&C just-so framework

at the risk of adding to the canon of extant just-so stories, i am going to try and sketch an argument, resting on a minimum of assumptions, for why the TDC framework should be arise in any thinking thing

where there�s life (process that maintains itself, transduces, reproduces) there�s scarcity

where�s there�s scarcity, there�s death

where there�s death, there�s selection (assuming that there is a source of variation)

where there�s selection, there�s pressure to exploit the world increasingly efficiently

doesn�t there also have to be heritance???

where there�s pressure to exploit the world increasingly efficiently, there will be an arms race � this will lead to increasingly close-fitting and complex models of the world

more complex models require longer and more memory to learn + remember � if you can represent them more compactly and generate all the data you need, then you can have a more complex model without the memory + learning-time costs

compression can be expressed in terms of the MDL � the more structure there is in the world, the more you benefit from really good, abstract, compact, generative models because you can really reduce the number of uninformative noisy exceptions that you need to capture the data

in other words, having good models helps you benefit, which means that you�re more likely to survive and propagate your genes, which means that those genes are more likely to proliferate,

can you not think of genes in non-genetic terms, but more as just something that gets passed to the next generation � could you think of memes as inherited???

more compact representations allow you to know more about the world � he�s arguing that the most compact representations are things, differences and causes � why though?

the most useful kind of knowledge that you can have is what to do in order to maximise reward

in order to do that, you need to have a sense of choice, or at least of alternatives �

I think we can see the first 3 levels of the model 6 as being a kind of obvious, obvious track for the intelligent arms race above

once you�ve got as far as level 3, you�ve got the ability to choose between alternatives

so then you can make use of knowledge to direct your actions� hmmm � this isn�t going anywhere

so, to backtrack: the most useful kind of knowledge that you can have is what to do in order to maximise reward

there are consequences you like � you need some sort of reward function then, right??? � these are goals???

anyway, causes are those things (or differences???) that are most richly generative of the consequences you like

as soon as you have a means of representing hypotheticals, you can compare between present, past + possible worlds

or to put it another way, as soon as you have a means of comparing� then what??? this doesn�t work � you need to put it the other way as above

as soon as you have a basic, first-order intentionality predictive model of others, it will get more complex

then, as before, you will try and break it into compositions because they�re better for storage (and we know that minds are structured, hence compressible and decomposable)

and what�s better for storage is better for generation

once you start to represent other people as decomposable, then what will you find to be the best way of decomposing them??? beliefs and desires??? their own things, differences + causes??? goals??? consequences??? things, differences and causes about the way they work

the thing is, I�ve justified TDC at some levels, but by no means at all � and indeed, the argument will become increasingly tenuous if I try to � the question is why TDC at every level??? you might be forgiven for thinking that it would be great for certain levels but not for others�

does level 3 (deliberative) have TDC??? of what kind??? see steve�s paper � it definitely has difference � and I suppose each complete hypothetical scenario is a thing � there�s a single cause, which is the best scenario which causes your behaviour � but I don�t think that there are component notions of cause within the different scenarios

Assumptions

scarcity � proved

evolution � proved

composition as following from an intellect arms race � proved

things/differences as the best way to decompose??? � not proved

need for consequences/goals in order to explain the need for causes???

causes as meta-analogies??? � take two pairs of situations (clauses), see the difference between them,

 

Other sections to include

argue that TDC (things, differences, causes) are in some sense operations

argue that the notion of clause is underdetermined, nebulous and redundant

need for consequences/goals???

C&C3 just-so story